Prompt:
¹⁾ What does it mean to be a “good” student according to common sense?
²⁾ Which students are privileged by this definition of the good student?
³⁾ How is the “good” student shaped by historical factors?
¹⁾ Although Painter definitely relays this message with unsavoury undertones, both Painter and Kumashiro imply that a “good” student is one that is able to keep up with the class and is willing to participate fully in lessons. Painter assesses this through the lens of historical cultural biases, equating all students from a given region to Western perceptions of those cultures. Our assigned reading of his text didn’t reach his assessment of Western schools, but I have no doubt that the best of the “good” students would be found in that section of Painter’s book. Kumashiro doesn’t use this grouped method when talking about students. He speaks to the individuality that all students have, while still acknowledging that students (and people in general) are a product of the environment they were raised in. One interesting point that Kumashiro makes through his anecdotes is that even though he has had challenging students, they are not “bad” students. Where Kumashiro sees a student that is struggling to learn, Painter seems to see an opportunity to “other” that student.
²⁾ The students that end up getting privileged by this definition of “good” are the ones who; don’t have an issue sitting for long periods of time, are engaged with every activity, and conform to the cultural norms of the community surrounding the school. I think a bigger point to be made is the flip side of this coin though. You can’t have a privileged group of people without also having another group that is being put at a disadvantage. This definition of the “good” student ends up putting a lot of students into that disadvantaged category. The spectrum runs from serious situations involving students with less than ideal home lives all the way to students that just happen to have a hard time maintaining concentration.
³⁾ The few pages of Painter’s text that we read go a long way in showing how “good” students were historically viewed. One of the things that I had in the back of my mind while reading his descriptions of Chinese and Indian schools was the little bit I know of the history of colonization in those areas. When the British tried to colonize China they were met with steep resistance that eventually led to the Opium Wars and partial colonization. In India on the other hand the British were able to push their way further into the country and completely colonize it. I feel like these situations played a role in the different feelings that Painter had for these two nations. Fast-forwarding to Kumashiro’s paper you can see how different students are thought of. Kumashiro doesn’t make any mention of socioeconomic standing when talking about students, let alone race. It seems that between the two papers there has been a paradigm shift from looking at students as a group, to viewing students as individuals. There are no specific historical factors that I can attribute Kumashiro’s understanding to, but I feel like it is just the change in times, and subsequent change in understanding that is at play.
References:
Painter, F.V.N. (1886). A History of Education. Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/historyofeducati00painiala/mode/2up
Kumashiro, K. (2010). Against Common Sense. Routledge.
Hi Mack!
I like how you conveyed the differences between Kumashiro and Painter’s ideas about what it means to be a ‘good’ student, as they definitely are very different. The point you made about how whenever you have a privileged group of people it means there is also a group being disadvantaged is really insightful. This may seem obvious, but privilege is so often overlooked, meaning those being disadvantaged are sadly overlooked as well. The connections you made to historical factors is great. One question, how do you think viewing students as individuals rather than a group impacts their learning and classroom experience?
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Hey Sarah,
To answer your question; I think that getting to know your students, and seeing your class as a group of individuals (as opposed to one homogenous class) not only allows your students to thrive, but could also lead to better student-student interactions.
Although I have nothing to reference, I think it can be said that engaging with students on a personal level, showing interest in what they are interested in, and possibly even tailoring lessons to cater to those interests helps students to create connections with you as well as the content being taught. I also feel that being supportive of all your students, and showing interest/support of their diverse interests could help to promote a culture of understanding amongst the students which would benefit they way they treat each other.
On the flip side, if you plan on really getting to now students and being able to support them as individual learners you have to make sure that you don’t accidentally end up favouring one student (or small group of students).
-Mack
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